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Re: NASCAR

Postby Wolverine_pride78 » Mon Apr 25, 2011 11:38 am

Eagle... It Laurens County Speedway.

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Re: NASCAR

Postby beaudiddley » Mon Apr 25, 2011 5:21 pm

TGRFAN wrote:It was an exciting finish, but that is some pitiful racing! The most exciting race I ever saw was the 2000 fall race at Dega. Earnhardt senior came from 18th with 2 laps to go to win the race.


One of the most exciting races I have seen at Dega....was back in the 80s when Bill Elliott was 2 laps down......and made both up without a caution flag......and won the race.....that was hunting........
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Re: NASCAR

Postby TGRFAN » Mon Apr 25, 2011 8:57 pm

beaudiddley wrote:
TGRFAN wrote:It was an exciting finish, but that is some pitiful racing! The most exciting race I ever saw was the 2000 fall race at Dega. Earnhardt senior came from 18th with 2 laps to go to win the race.


One of the most exciting races I have seen at Dega....was back in the 80s when Bill Elliott was 2 laps down......and made both up without a caution flag......and won the race.....that was hunting........
That was the good ole pre- restrictor plate racing days!
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Re: NASCAR

Postby beaudiddley » Tue Apr 26, 2011 12:37 pm

TGRFAN wrote:
beaudiddley wrote:
TGRFAN wrote:It was an exciting finish, but that is some pitiful racing! The most exciting race I ever saw was the 2000 fall race at Dega. Earnhardt senior came from 18th with 2 laps to go to win the race.


One of the most exciting races I have seen at Dega....was back in the 80s when Bill Elliott was 2 laps down......and made both up without a caution flag......and won the race.....that was hunting........
That was the good ole pre- restrictor plate racing days!


One of the last if I remember correctly......I think in the fall race that year was when Bill qualified at 112 MPH.......and the next year Nascar started the restrictor plate races.......ending racing at Dega and Daytona.......
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Re: NASCAR

Postby Wolverine_pride78 » Tue Apr 26, 2011 12:52 pm

Beau i think you meant 212..... yeah that was a great race. if I am not mistaken That was one of Alan Kulwicki first races at Dega, and had a horrible flip down the back straight.. Restrictor plate racing sucks

See most teams run a 358 cubic in motor (Chevy) which is the max engine displacment, in a no restrictor plate type setting this is fine, and needed. But when they tkae that same engine and put the plate on it it cuts power down to around 430-450 hp but the cars are still running around 190-195mph in the draft. so why not have the teams develop a "crate" type engine for super speedway. I know Chevy has a CT 525 crate engine now, that alot of the super late model dirt teams are running. Its a small block 376ci motor that has proven its self well. Have all the manufactures develop a similar type engine say in the 327ci range with around 500 hp, no restrictor plates and run a lil taller spoiler on the rear say maybe 12 inches with a required middle cutter blade. I think this would give us some of the races from the old days, and open the draft up to more than these 2 car train races
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Re: NASCAR

Postby Woodruff Star » Mon May 02, 2011 11:27 pm

The 2 car races remind me of bees buzzing around outside mating, stuck to one another's tail.
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Re: NASCAR

Postby beaudiddley » Thu May 05, 2011 3:32 pm

Wolverine_pride78 wrote:Beau i think you meant 212..... yeah that was a great race. if I am not mistaken That was one of Alan Kulwicki first races at Dega, and had a horrible flip down the back straight.. Restrictor plate racing sucks

See most teams run a 358 cubic in motor (Chevy) which is the max engine displacment, in a no restrictor plate type setting this is fine, and needed. But when they tkae that same engine and put the plate on it it cuts power down to around 430-450 hp but the cars are still running around 190-195mph in the draft. so why not have the teams develop a "crate" type engine for super speedway. I know Chevy has a CT 525 crate engine now, that alot of the super late model dirt teams are running. Its a small block 376ci motor that has proven its self well. Have all the manufactures develop a similar type engine say in the 327ci range with around 500 hp, no restrictor plates and run a lil taller spoiler on the rear say maybe 12 inches with a required middle cutter blade. I think this would give us some of the races from the old days, and open the draft up to more than these 2 car train races


Right....I meant 212......did you know that when NASCAR went to the restrictor plates......they specified that they be on all engines from 350 to 358 CI.....I think that's what they ran back then.......shortly after that Bill and Ernie Elliott went to Dega and tested a 302 Ford engine and turned something like 205 mph......and NASCAR promply outlawed engines with less than 350 CI........
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Re: NASCAR

Postby aslick1 » Sat Jul 23, 2016 3:01 am

cavaliereagle wrote:The last dance

Breaking down the final lap at 'Dega; Johnson goes from seventh to Victory Lane

By Mark Aumann, NASCAR.COM
April 18, 2011 4:36 PM, EDT

TALLADEGA, Ala. -- How did Jimmie Johnson go from seventh to first on the final lap of Sunday's Aaron's 499 at Talladega Superspeedway? Here's a breakdown of what happened between the four pairs of leaders over the final 2.66 miles.


White flag


Jeff Gordon and Mark Martin have the lead on the high side heading through the center of the tri-oval, with Carl Edwards and Greg Biffle trailing on the inside. By the time they reach Talladega's start/finish line -- which is located between the tri-oval and Turn 1 -- Edwards-Biffle have tucked in behind the leaders, with Clint Bowyer and Kevin Harvick following closely behind. Johnson and his pusher, Dale Earnhardt Jr., decide to stay low.




Turn 1



While Gordon hugs the yellow line through the corner, Bowyer makes a quick move to the inside of Edwards, as Harvick follows him through. Edwards and his pushing partner wind up sliding up the track, allowing Johnson and Earnhardt to get by on the low side.


Turn 2


The first six cars are nose to tail in the low groove, with Edwards and Biffle regaining their momentum and ducking back into line.


Backstretch


While Gordon takes the center groove, Bowyer decides to go high and pulls even with the leader at the midpoint of the back straight. Sitting fifth, Johnson wavers back and forth, trying to determine which pair to follow. Just as Bowyer clears Gordon's bumper, Johnson decides to follow his two Hendrick teammates to the bottom of the track.


Turn 3


As the leaders enter the corner, Johnson tries to duck the nose of his car to the low side of Martin but there's no room down low. At the midpoint of the corner, Johnson sees a possible opening in between the two pairs, but Gordon won't allow that to happen, forcing Johnson to follow the RCR duo instead.


Johnson: "They got side by side, which allowed us to really close up and as we went into Turn 3, I had a big run, and was thinking about the bottom, and [Gordon and Martin] defended that, and then I kind of wandered to the middle and didn't have an option then and knew I still had probably a mile to go."


Turn 4


Nearest the yellow line, Gordon carries the narrowest of leads into the corner, with Bowyer coming back on the high side. Johnson remains behind committed to the high side, as Edwards begins to close back up on the six Chevrolets. Watch: Johnson, Bowyer, Gordon in photo finish

Entering the tri-oval


Seeing that Bowyer may have a run to his outside, Gordon slides up one lane in an attempt to use the side draft to slow their advance. At that moment, Johnson makes the decision that ultimately wins the race. He veers sharply to the inside of both two-car drafts and Earnhardt is able to catch up quickly and get back in a position to push. Johnson's left-side tires appear to touch the yellow line.






I was like, 'Oh, no! Block 'em, block 'em, block 'em!



-- CLINT BOWYER

Johnson: "I just chilled out and sat in their draft and as we came off of [Turn] 4, those two groups were occupied trying to side draft each other and racing each other at the top, covered up. As we started rolling up on them, I shot down to the bottom, and we were able to surge by out of the tri-oval coming out of the bottom because they kind of left it open there."


Bowyer: "I saw them coming, and [Gordon] and I were trying to suck off each other and break each other's momentum and drag racing each other so much. I was like, 'Oh, no! Block 'em, block 'em, block 'em! I knew if [Gordon] dipped down to block them, that we had the race won."


Midpoint of the tri-oval


Bowyer has a bumper ahead of Gordon. However, Gordon has lost contact with Martin. Johnson -- even with Gordon's trunklid -- has all the momentum and a clear view of the start/finish line. Edwards makes a banzai move right up against the outside wall but is too far back.


Gordon: "We were leading coming off of [Turn] 4. I'm sure when I watch the video, there's definitely plenty of things I would have liked to have done a little bit different, but I feel like we did a really nice job."


Edwards: "I don't know what it looked like from the outside, but from inside it looked like about eight drivers doing some serious precision driving. That was pretty wild. I have to see the replay, but I squeezed between Harvick and Bowyer at the finish line with Greg pushing me. You talk about some commitment. At that point, you just have to trust everybody's instincts. Kevin and Clint, I don't think they knew I was there, but they had the instincts to give me enough room in case somebody went there, and I had everything but an inch. We squeezed the car together and everybody kept it going straight. That's spectacular." Watch: Johnson, team celebrate in Victory Lane


Start/finish line


While Gordon is fading back in the middle of the track, Johnson powers by on the inside, edging Bowyer by .002 seconds. It equals the closest margin of victory since NASCAR went to electronic scoring in 1993.


Johnson: "I was inside [Martin], I could see [Gordon] pull back up, and maintain his line with [Martin] connected to his bumper. So, I don't know. There's still so much going on at the end of that thing coming to the stripe, I haven't seen it yet, either, like I mentioned and I don't know what anybody could have done differently. When you're four-wide across a start/finish line, I think that's a pretty damn good race."


Bowyer: "It's never very good to know you made NASCAR history by losing. Sooner or later I need to start making history by winning


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