Wilson Hall / Pinewood Head Coaching openings

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Re: Wilson Hall / Pinewood Head Coaching openings

Postby EagleMan52 » Wed Mar 02, 2011 1:52 pm

theguy wrote:Also, it'd be interesting to see how everyone would rank for each classification (3A, 2A and 1A) the best head football jobs to have. Include rationale


That would be an interesting discussion, anyone care to take elaborate? OSP, KSU?
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Re: Wilson Hall / Pinewood Head Coaching openings

Postby OldSchool Pinewood » Wed Mar 02, 2011 2:38 pm

EagleMan52 wrote:
theguy wrote:Also, it'd be interesting to see how everyone would rank for each classification (3A, 2A and 1A) the best head football jobs to have. Include rationale


That would be an interesting discussion, anyone care to take elaborate? OSP, KSU?


I'll give it a shot for AAA and AA. I just don't know enough about Single A other than to say if you could afford to live on Kiawah then Charleston Collegiate might be the best job.

Taking into consideration the following in order of prominence: (1) geographic locale/quality of life; (2) abiltity to pay well and provide benefits to include retirement; (3) football tradition; and (4) untapped potential of football program/ability to make an impact, I'd rank them like this:

AAA
1. Porter-Gaud
2. Hammond
3. Heathwood Hall
4. Pinewood
5. Wilson Hall
6. Ben Lippen
7. Augusta Christian
8. Laurence Manning
9. Orangeburg Prep
10. Cardinal Newman

AA
1. Hilton Head Prep
2. Hilton Head Christian
3. St. Andrew's
4. Northwood
5. Thomas Sumter
6. First Baptist
7. Thomas Heyward
8. Florence Christian
9. Calhoun Academy
10. Williamsburg Academy
11. Pee Dee Academy
12. R.E. Lee

Now obviously these rankings would change depending on the situation and the candidate. To a candidate from Sumter who really likes Sumter and wants to go back home, Wilson Hall is going to be ranked higher than Pinewood and possibly even Heathwood or Hammond. But to someone not familiar with Sumter (or perhaps to someone familiar with Sumter who couldn't imagine living there), Wilson Hall might be ranked below Ben Lippen and Augusta Christian.
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Re: Wilson Hall / Pinewood Head Coaching openings

Postby cyclonefan11 » Wed Mar 02, 2011 2:52 pm

Old School,

While I don't disagree with you about Cardinal Newman completely, I do think that there is lots of opportunity there. Their Boys Basketball and Soccer teams are always competitive if not leaders, but the guys just don't play football! If they could find a way to get those kids playing football, I think they would make an instant impact in Columbia. Kind of the same mentality with Pinewood. Interested why you have Pinewood so high, but CN at the bottom.
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Re: Wilson Hall / Pinewood Head Coaching openings

Postby OldSchool Pinewood » Wed Mar 02, 2011 5:46 pm

cyclonefan11 wrote:Old School,

While I don't disagree with you about Cardinal Newman completely, I do think that there is lots of opportunity there. Their Boys Basketball and Soccer teams are always competitive if not leaders, but the guys just don't play football! If they could find a way to get those kids playing football, I think they would make an instant impact in Columbia. Kind of the same mentality with Pinewood. Interested why you have Pinewood so high, but CN at the bottom.


Let me say this: I am not sure there is all that much distinction in AAA after the first two or so. Also, all of the AAA jobs are probably more desirable than all but the top two or so AA jobs.

As to Cardinal Newman, I think the toughest part of that job is just to overcome recent tradition in football. You're exactly right - Cardinal Newman has athletes and lots of them. Success in basketball and soccer make that clear. There is no reason why Cardinal Newman and Pinewood shouldn't have 35-40 kids dressed out ready to go on a Friday night. Pinewood has stuggled consistently getting 30 out, Cardinal Newman doesn't get 25 to my recollection. You're also right to suggest that Cardinal Newman is a place where there is room for a coach to make an impact in football, much more so than say Orangeburg Prep - a school that I believe plays to its maximum potential every year for five or six wins.
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Re: Wilson Hall / Pinewood Head Coaching openings

Postby Chain Blue Lightnin » Wed Mar 02, 2011 7:48 pm

AAA-Hammond and Ben Lippen
AA-St Andrews and Florence Christian
A-Palmetto Christian
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Re: Wilson Hall / Pinewood Head Coaching openings

Postby old ball coach » Thu Mar 03, 2011 12:32 am

I think that that Wilson Hall has the perfect personal to run the wing-T. This offense is designed for speed and think that WH has plenty of that coming back next year. I know this is not a popular offense with some, but what's more important winning games or putting on a show! Jet is the master of this offense and if the players buy in to his system it is going to be ugly for other scisa teams. Anyone who understands football knows what the wing_t can do when run correctly, if not call Dorman high or South Point high and ask them if it works, by the way Jets team rushed for 345 yard against South Points Javon Clowney, I think you know who that is!!! Give it a chance and ENJOY THE RIDE!!!!
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Re: Wilson Hall / Pinewood Head Coaching openings

Postby hoopitup » Thu Mar 03, 2011 2:36 am

I agree the Wing T can be a potent offense when used correctly with a good offensive line and decent speedsters in the backfield. On the flip side it can be the downfall of a program once teams begin to understand it. As the case with Crestwood High School.
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Re: Wilson Hall / Pinewood Head Coaching openings

Postby ole cavalier » Thu Mar 03, 2011 7:47 am

No doubt the personal ar Wh will thrive in this offense.This is perfect timing for both Jet and the school.The talent level at WH for the next 4 years maybe the best in the history of the school.Then they go get a coach the caliber of Turner,wow this is going to be fun.Old ball coach you left off a bunch of big time players that have fallen victim to the double wing during Jets time at Clover. How about Stephon Gilmore,Devonte Holloman,Dwayne Chilsom, Devin Taylor ,Daquan Bowers, and Cliff Matthews just to name a few.
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Re: Wilson Hall / Pinewood Head Coaching openings

Postby icelandtiger » Thu Mar 03, 2011 9:16 am

ole cavalier wrote:No doubt the personal ar Wh will thrive in this offense.This is perfect timing for both Jet and the school.The talent level at WH for the next 4 years maybe the best in the history of the school.Then they go get a coach the caliber of Turner,wow this is going to be fun.Old ball coach you left off a bunch of big time players that have fallen victim to the double wing during Jets time at Clover. How about Stephon Gilmore,Devonte Holloman,Dwayne Chilsom, Devin Taylor ,Daquan Bowers, and Cliff Matthews just to name a few.



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Re: Wilson Hall / Pinewood Head Coaching openings

Postby ole cavalier » Thu Mar 03, 2011 11:16 am

You are right on Matthews and Bowers .Turner coached those 2 on Shrine Bowl teams.
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