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JV
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Sounds like DA and Mr. Gruber need former President Carter to go to St. George and hold a summit conference. Maybe go to Camp David. Seriously, all the comments on this board are interesting to read, but I hope all at DA come together and resolve this in the best interests of the DA family, especially the students.
 
Posts: 108 | Registered: 29 August 2006Reply With QuoteEdit or Delete MessageReport This Post
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It looks like this may go the way of the 96 high school football fiasco. Check out the 2A board to see how nasty it got, even the reporters from the local paper weighed in. They have about destroyed any chance for the next coach to be successful.


Hakkaa Palle! Hakkaa Palle! Hakkaa Palle!
 
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According to my records, I have Dorchester Academy winning 5 state championships of their 10 appearances. Here are their stats:

State Championships:
1991-
Class AA
Dorchester (13-0) 34
Wardlaw Ac. (10-3) 12

1999-
Class AAA
Dorchester (13-0) 32
Heathwood Hall (10-2) 27

2001-
Class AA
Dorchester (12-0) 13
Colleton Prep (10-3) 7

2006 -
Class A
Dorchester defeated Dillon Christian
Does anyone have the score, records for these two teams?

State Runner-Up finishes:
1985-
Class A
Jefferson Davis (12-2) 7
Dorchester Acad. (9-4) 0

1987-
Class AA
Clarendon Hall (10-2) 21
Dorchester Ac. (9-3) 6

1988-
Class AA
Clarendon Hall (10-2) 27
Dorchester Acad. (9-3) 19

1995-
Class AA
Richard Winn (13-0) 42
Dorchester A. (9-4) 6

2004-
Class AA
Calhoun Acad. (12-2) 21
Dorchester (9-4) 6
 
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If Gruber is let go or decides not to return, I wonder if Al Hay would be interested. I beleive he still lives somewhere in or near the St. George area.
 
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I think the score was 35-14 DA. not exactly sure, but I think that's right. I believe DA was undefeated and DCA had one loss to Dillon High and another to someone else.
 
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The score for the 2006 DC vs. DA game was DC-7, DA-35. I don't know Dillon's record for that year. I know they beat us in regulars season play with a touchdown in the last minute of the game. I think we also lost to HHC and maybe one other team during the regular season.
 
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Here's a tid-bit on the whole DA/four-year college thing. Being an A-AA school, DA isn't very big, so figure the graduating class size may be anywhere from 25-45. I could be over or under-selling a litle bit on either side, because I think I saw one guy post on here about graduating with a class of 19, whereas I graduated with a class of 39 at CPA (both AA schools at the time) and we were the largest class in quite some time.

Anyway, my point here is that I'm familiar with with many of the students who've graduated from DA over the last few years and a few of the ones graduating this year, (the majority of those graduated between 05-07) and of the ones I know who've graduated from lets say '04-'08 I know a large majority of those students are/were in four year schools or will be in the fall.

Here's the number of students that i can think of right off hand: 36. I know I'm leaving a few off, cause I don't know everyone over there. I also know of four or five going to two-year schools. These are the schools:, Francis Marion, USC, Clemson, C of C, Wofford, Midlands Tech, Tri-County Tech, Anderson, USC - Salkehatchie (four-year nursing and teaching programs).

Again, the majority of those 36 (probably 25-28) graduated between '05 and '07. That's a pretty large amount for a small school, so don't go knocking the DA academics just yet folks. Somethings obviously working. Last time I checked, some of those schools don't let just anyone walk in. Some of you may be selling your own school a little bit short.


I don't have to be right. I just have to prove you wrong.
 
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A better question is why are you talking DA stuff at 3:01 in the A.M.?
 
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What difference does the time make?
 
Posts: 373 | Location: The West Bank of Hell Hole Bay | Registered: 04 May 2005Reply With QuoteEdit or Delete MessageReport This Post
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I've been away, looks like you all have been busy! It is just fascinating for me to come back and read through these e-mails again with a fresh perspective.

I know this is a football forum, but go back and read through the chain of replies.

I can't afford college for my kids, I can barely afford DA. I need them to be competitve in the local college market. There aren't any colleges out there that give football scholarships based on football alone. Given our econonmy, it is has become very competitive to get into college and eve more competitive for kids to get scholarship money. If our school doesn't change, our kids won't have college as an option. Is that what we want?

Does anyone have the statistics that shows how many DA kids were offered college scholarships for football? You all have sung the praises of SG's record? What good is a record if our kids aren't getting scholarships?

Is there true football talent or is it just that SG is a supernatural coach? The only way DA will be hurt by removing SG, considering that our kids have actual talent, is if WE parents make it impossible for DA to hire a new coach. Why would we do that to our children?

We need to support the school and know that the board has nothing to gain by this. I am NOT a board member. But, the board is made up of parents. Why would they take this on, if they didn't know more than we know?

I'm a mom of a boy that has a lot more potential than football. I don't know...it makes me sad.
 
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Originally posted by Cavalier Fan #1:
According to my records, I have Dorchester Academy winning 5 state championships of their 10 appearances. Here are their stats:

State Championships:
1991-
Class AA
Dorchester (13-0) 34
Wardlaw Ac. (10-3) 12

1999-
Class AAA
Dorchester (13-0) 32
Heathwood Hall (10-2) 27

2001-
Class AA
Dorchester (12-0) 13
Colleton Prep (10-3) 7

2006 -
Class A
Dorchester defeated Dillon Christian
Does anyone have the score, records for these two teams?

State Runner-Up finishes:
1985-
Class A
Jefferson Davis (12-2) 7
Dorchester Acad. (9-4) 0

1987-
Class AA
Clarendon Hall (10-2) 21
Dorchester Ac. (9-3) 6

1988-
Class AA
Clarendon Hall (10-2) 27
Dorchester Acad. (9-3) 19

1995-
Class AA
Richard Winn (13-0) 42
Dorchester A. (9-4) 6

2004-
Class AA
Calhoun Acad. (12-2) 21
Dorchester (9-4) 6


Do you know what the average SAT scores are for from 1991 to 2007?
 
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Is that a football coaches job? To get kid's scholarships? Or to mature them and mold them into young adults? Because I thought maturity was a lot more important that a stupid scholarship. Not many kids from SCISA are getting scholarships in football, especially in A/AA.
 
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Stallion - the "job" of a coach is dictated by the goals of the school and the athletic depratment. As a Scisa football coach and a parent, I have been reading this whole thread with interest and a little bit of disgust. As a coach, we serve under the authority of the administration. We have to have a little trust that the adminstration will conduct itself correctly as well.
But back to the job of a coach. It seems to me that a caoch should be a teacher; not necessarily just in a classroom or just on the field. And in that role is many facets. At our school and program, I believe that our primary role is to plant the seeds into young men that eventually grow them to manhood. And manhood defined by honor, accountablity, empathy and a genuine desire to be focused on others, all men need to be part of a tribe (or a family, etc) and need a cause. The greatest thing about a football team is that it gives young men a chance to learn how to be part of something bigger than themselves. Players are accountable to their team, they are encouraged and built up within that team, and a good coach asks only that the player bring all his talent, everytime! Not all players have the God given ability to play in college, and even fewer have the work ethic.
All that being said, I think that for those players who want to play after high school, there can be a place for each of them, if they are willing to do the work. In A/AA SCISA there are truly very few (if any) big time D1 players in a given year. Truth is, there are very few big time football players on most high school schedules at any level. And at our level, a coah must be able to honestly evaluate the players ability, and then be able to help them maximize that talent. Part of that "job" entails having the contacts at many levels of football to help the truly dedicated SCISA athlete reach a goal. There are D3 or NAIA schools out there who will let anyone enrolled walk on.
I guess that means that a part of the coach's job has to be being able to get his players in front of the right college coach, or coaches, based on that players ability. If that happens, there can be financial aid help as well.
So yes Stallion, I think that a small part of the coach's job is to find a place for the athlete to reach his goal. And in many of those places there is some scholarship money available.
However, in the coach's opinion, the primary job of a coach is to teach the effort and commitment and unity that will be the basis of the man that the player grows to be. Stallion, as a coach you can't teach maturity, you can model it, and you can use football to teach the pieces that can grow into a mature man - but as a coach, you also need to be able to teach that there are rewards for the hard work - sometimes it's a chance to play in college!
Thanks for letting me ramble - but its what we do that matters - and you've had a good coach in Williamsbuurg.
 
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Look I'll clear this up for all you politically correct guys. Stanley could give two chuckles whether his players go to college or not. That,s the reason many of them wind up at the cement plants. AS far as this controversy goes, everyone knows Stanley has been having his cake and eating it too for many years and has always let anyone know who would listen who really runs DA. If DA would just move on they would be better off. This whole thing is a reminder of the OP situation a few years ago. They could never send anyone to college ball either and I watched them beat our brains out with some of the best looking talent in the history of this league in the 90's.
 
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