Agree totally

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Originally posted by justdid84:
are you for real your saying that it not one the toughest places to play ..i not saying the toughest but one of the toughest ..you need to ask every columbia school that plays them at there place..pinewood old gym is toughest..the new gym is tough also..i have seen pinewood and porter gaud play alot.. i can remember porter was so tough to beat at there gym..like playing boston garden..best team 2002/2003..2003/2004 teams were just wicked..

Yes, that is exactly what I am saying. It is a tough place to play. Not one of the 5 toughest in SCISA.

For me, the first criteria of a tough place to play is how the home team protects their floor. So the team has to be very good for it to be considered a tough place. What was Florence Christian's home record last year? Thomas Heyward's gym and fans are about as rowdy as you will find, but being that they are perenially not great, it isn't really that tough to play there.

You want to talk about a tough place to play, try playing the HH Prep girls on their own floor. They have lost once in the last 4 years there and that was to mighty Oak Hill Academy last year in a game that came down to a last second shot. They haven't lost a SCISA game there since Ashley Scott's junior year at Northwood. What makes it so tough is that the floor dimensions are smaller than most gyms so there is even less ground for Prep to cover when they are pressing the crap out of you.

Would Cameron Indoor be a tough place to play if Duke was no good? Maybe the toughest Gym in all of college sports to play in is Gallaher-Iba Arena at Oklahoma State. It is an old-time fieldhouse where the fans are literally three feet from the sidelines. It only holds about 8000 people which is tiny for bigtime college basketball, but that place is sick.

you are either very stupid or just dont know about basketball you just dont know..orjust dont care...who ever you are you know know whole alot about scisa basketball..if you look either you dont know any thing about the columbia region or the florence region i mean there only 3 regions in scisa ..hammond, ben lippen, heathwood, cardinal newman, augusta christian, st joseph, lma, robert e lee, wilson hall, orangeburg prep, thomas sumter now AA, Have lost more games at florence christian sinice 2000 -til now than have won there....only 3 places i know in boys basketball that is tougher to play at is pinewood , porter guad, wilson hall..

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Originally posted by justdid84:
you are either very stupid or just dont know about basketball you just dont know..orjust dont care...who ever you are you know know whole alot about scisa basketball..if you look either you dont know any thing about the columbia region or the florence region i mean there only 3 regions in scisa ..hammond, ben lippen, heathwood, cardinal newman, augusta christian, st joseph, lma, robert e lee, wilson hall, orangeburg prep, thomas sumter now AA, Have lost more games at florence christian sinice 2000 -til now than have won there....only 3 places i know in boys basketball that is tougher to play at is pinewood , porter guad, wilson hall..

You got me....

You are right, I am stupid.

You are right, I know nothing about basketball.

You are right, I know absolutely NOTHING about SCISA basketball.

Here are two things I do know. Punctuation and Spelling.

Oh yeah, I know one more thing, this is MY thread about AAA boys basketball in SCISA that you are paying so much attention too. Everybody else seems to be paying attention to it also, as they usually do when I post a basketball thread on this board.

Do you really want to start calling me out over my knowledge of SCISA basketball?

well if you have so much knowledge then you would have known that playing at florence christian has will and all ways be a tough place to play ..i just said it was tough place to play and you act like everbody wins there..

I'm not so sure I would say Florence christian is that tough of a place to play at. After all, Cardinal Newman has won there the last 2 times they have played. I've been around scisa a long time and I've been to florence christian a number of times. When Glen Rector was coaching there I would say it was a tough place to play. If I'm not mistaken...(when he had his son playing for him and that team full of seniors that beat Porter Gaud in the State Championship...By the way...they beat HH Prep, PP, and PG and to win it) I dont think that class ever loss at home. Maybe someone could confirm this but I think from 9th-12th they never lost a HOME basketball game. Now thats impressive! I cannot remember their senior year but it was a year or two after Stackhouse had graduated from Cardinal Newman. CN beat them one time in 4 years and it was at the playoffs in OT. Thats when you could say FC had a major homecourt advantage but not anymore.

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Originally posted by fanofbball:
After all, Cardinal Newman has won there the last 2 times they have played.

That is incorrect my friend. FC beat Cardinal Newman last yr at FC by 1 pt. I was at that game and it was a good one.

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Originally posted by EagleMan25:

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Originally posted by fanofbball:
After all, Cardinal Newman has won there the last 2 times they have played.

That is incorrect my friend. FC beat Cardinal Newman last yr at FC by 1 pt. I was at that game and it was a good one.

MY BAD...I forgot about "the call"...you know what I'm talking about. I stand corrected but in the 90's...FC didnt need help from the refs. I still dont think FC is one of the toughest places to play...ANYMORE.

KSU knows more about SCISA athletics than anyone else on this board, so he probably knows what hes talking about

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Originally posted by saints21:
KSU knows more about SCISA athletics than anyone else on this board, so he probably knows what hes talking about

The guy does his homework and he definitely knows his stuff.

Both my sons have played recently (last 4 years) in all of the above mentioned gyms--they hated going to FC--it was from their perspective--the toughest place to play--and to date the teams they have been members of haven't lost to FC (at FC).

I guess what I'd like to contribute is that any discussion of whether a place is "tough" to play should include some appreciation for what its like to play there--which requires input from the players to be valid; and that win-loss record doesn't necessarily correspond with tough locations.

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Originally posted by Irish-T:
Both my sons have played recently (last 4 years) in all of the above mentioned gyms--they hated going to FC--it was from their perspective--the toughest place to play--and to date the teams they have been members of haven't lost to FC (at FC).

I guess what I'd like to contribute is that any discussion of whether a place is "tough" to play should include some appreciation for what its like to play there--which requires input from the players to be valid; and that win-loss record doesn't necessarily correspond with tough locations.

What school did your son's attend? I'm curious to know.

Wilson Hall

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Originally posted by Irish-T:
Wilson Hall

Oh ok very nice.

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Originally posted by Irish-T:
Both my sons have played recently (last 4 years) in all of the above mentioned gyms--they hated going to FC--it was from their perspective--the toughest place to play--and to date the teams they have been members of haven't lost to FC (at FC).

I guess what I'd like to contribute is that any discussion of whether a place is "tough" to play should include some appreciation for what its like to play there--which requires input from the players to be valid; and that win-loss record doesn't necessarily correspond with tough locations.

I don't disagree that a place can be a tough place to play without the home team being dominant. There are lots of those places. Having seen most gyms in SCISA, some are infinitely more difficult to play in than others.

Thomas Heyward has a very tough gym to play in, but their teams don't tend to be very good. The fans are boisterus and loud, the gym is built like a steel barn and the noise just reverberates all over the place. Until just a couple of years ago, they had that same mickey mouse lego type of floor that SCISA teams are subjected to playing on in Sumter for the state tournament, but now they have a beautiful wood floor.

Florence Christian has a tough gym to play in, I just don't think it is one of the top 5 in hardest gyms to play in in all of SCISA.